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Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the Taste Music Here Food Podcast Show. I am your host Ed
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Porter. This is the place for food, music, and culture and how they all connect. Today we have an amazing pillar
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of why this whole thing exists as far as what hip-hop was meant to do and how it
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brings people together in the community of it all. So before we even get started, I have to give this man his just do flowers and my best way to do that is with this intro. So here we go.
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Tonightโ€™s guest is a true architect and culture connector. From the raw energy of Lawrence, Mass to commanding airwaves
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in major markets like Boston, DC, Cleveland, and the Twin Cities, heโ€™s been a trusted voice in hip hop for over two decades. A DJ, radio host, media
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personality, and master interviewer himself. He sat down with everyone from Kendrick to K to Kevin Hart. Always bringing the realness and respect for
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the culture. But more than that, heโ€™s a storyteller, a curator of moments that live between the beat drops and the truthtelling. Whether spinning records,
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mentoring talent, or building community, he brings attention into every move.
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This is the flavor of legacy. This is the sound of respect earned. Please welcome the man, the myth, the legend, Mr. Peter Parker. This is unbelievable.
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Listen, do I cash app you after this?
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How do that was the most beautiful thing anyone has ever said? Thatโ€™s so nice. I have such a reverence for everyone that
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I that I want to talk to. Yeah. And so the best way to pay that that homage to you is to is to do you right with, you
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know, and again, I I believe I I wholeheartedly believe that true creatives that just do it for the love of it have a hard time patting himself
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on the back. Oh man. And so like like how nice it was. Keep going, man. Yeah.
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But I think I think you nailed it though because I really do care. Um me and my buddy, I have a really close friend from Detroit named KB and we we grew up
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together playing ball back in the day and he we joke that he said, โ€œMan, you really love hiphop, man.โ€ And he he loved gangster rap. And we talk about culture a lot. And he always says, โ€œMan,
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you love the culture.โ€ And I was like, โ€œI really do. I really love the group of people in the room and the whole the
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sneakers, the hats, the lingo, the everything that comes along with the concerts and the clubs and the rate, the whole thing.โ€ Yeah. Yeah. And itโ€™s itโ€™s
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a lifestyle. can tell. Hereโ€™s hereโ€™s the thing. You cannot fake authenticity, right? You can you canโ€™t manufacture
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realness. Like the [ __ ] is very much you can see through it. So, you can also detect when somethingโ€™s super duper
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authentic. And so, and you canโ€™t listen either either this either itโ€™s been authentic or for 20 years. Youโ€™re the you need an Oscar. Iโ€™m no Iโ€™m no Drake,
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man. No. No. I really am not that good of an actor. I canโ€™t sing at all. My acting range is very limited. Howโ€™s your Howโ€™s your Howโ€™s your You your look in
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the wheelchair. Can you Can you do the Jimmy wheelchair, Jimmy? I could probably pull that move off. You know what I mean? But nah nah, this has really been a labor of love. I I love
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what I do. I love people. Um I had a a guidance counselor ask me in in high school. They were like when I was graduating, I kind of knew what I wanted
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to do in my mind. Like I was like, I could be like Bob Barker. Like I could be on tele. Like Iโ€™m like in my mind gonna be a celebrity. Like I I donโ€™t
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know how Iโ€™m going to get there in my mind, but this is what Iโ€™m trying to do as a kid. And sheโ€™s like, โ€œWell, what do you think you could do?โ€ And I was like, โ€œWell, Iโ€™m going toโ€ She was like, โ€œWell, what are you good at?โ€ And I was
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like, โ€œMaking people smile.โ€ And she like looked at me and sheโ€™s like, โ€œWhat are you going to do with that?โ€ Iโ€™m like, โ€œI think Iโ€™m going to figure something out.โ€ But like in my mind,
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that was like the easiest answer. Like what? I enjoy poking at people, joking, and make and how before we did this, we were laughing
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in here. You guys know me and him have been hanging out for 20 minutes before this, busting each otherโ€™s balls with the hats and everything, but like thatโ€™s
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really what I love to do is interact with people and then the conduit of sharing music and culture is the connector and and the hat is a signal.
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The sneakers is a signal when youโ€™re connecting with other like-minded people out in the field. When we were starting, no social, so you walk through the mall, I see them Jordans. Oh, I see that.
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Whereโ€™d you get that hat? And now youโ€™re making a friend off the hat. Itโ€™s like, yeah. Yeah. So itโ€™s itโ€™s itโ€™s always been a part of it, you know. So So speaking talking about, you know, your
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your love for it and how you Letโ€™s get into the the you know that Eureka moment for you. Oh man. That that you know,
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first off, anybody anybody whoโ€™s ever been to Lawrence, Massachusetts. Yeah, Lawrence is crazy. Lawrence is crazy. So rough city. I was born in Lawrence. Itโ€™s
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super rough, right? And so how do you go from, you know, wanting to to to do all
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the things you want to do Yeah. in a in a in a place like that and and make hip-hop that that conduit to make the storyโ€™s even crazier. So, I was born in
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in in that area in like the Marramac Valley in Lawrence, Massachusetts. And then my parents and my family, we moved into like New Hampshire. So I was I grew
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up about 30 minutes north of Lawrence, about 45 minutes to an hour north of Boston in a really for like the first 10
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years of my life in like a super secluded little small town uh with like no access to culture or anything. So as
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I was getting a little older, you know, 9 10 years old, you know, MTV, my dad had MTV in like the early8s, like when it first came on so he could watch ESPN.
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So, I was watching MTV as it was breaking. Like, Iโ€™m talking about glued to it. Michael Jackson for the first time. Everything for the first Iโ€™m watching everything for the first time.
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Uh, Run DMC and Aerosmith. Iโ€™m like, what the what is this? You know what I mean? Crazy. So, I was really put in in
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a situation where no phones, no like older kids in the neighborhood. So, my imagination was like really put to the
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test. And when I stumbled on, you know, it was the gateway for me. I the first time I heard Run DMC, I low-key like
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scared me. I did not know what I was listening to. I heard Mary Mary. I was like, what is this? I did not know
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really what it was when I first heard it. And then uh Parents Just Donโ€™t Understand with Will Smith and them.
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That was so easy to digest. But when Iโ€™d be out like doing my dad would send me out like pull the weeds up in the
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backyard like get outside and I would listen on the Walkman to the B side of the scratching and the beatboxing and that was really the beginning of like
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the the DJing and the the storytelling cuz there the singles are big on that but the culture of that album the heโ€™s
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the DJ Iโ€™m the rapper is phenomenal. The Bside is great. All the beatbox stuff ready rock C heโ€™s amazing. So that really got me really excited about it.
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But then when I was in like the fifth or sixth grade, a buddy of mine had left a bag at my house and there was like cassette inside of it. It was a maxo
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aside bside type of dub tape you could like whatever was like multicolored and the aside was public enemy fear of a
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black planet. And the bside was Ice Cube, Americaโ€™s Most Wanted. Thatโ€™s a crazy uh So I put in Americaโ€™s Most
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Wanted and heard the first song in Americaโ€™s Most Wanted where heโ€™s saying [ __ ] you Ice Cube on his own record and I blew my mind that someone could have a
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record with the chorus screaming f you on the chorus to that. It spoke to me in vault. I was 11 or 10. I spoke to me.
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Iโ€™m like this is it. And I just I just at that point now it was like an explosion and this is like 1990. So Bel
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Biv Devo was huge like all these main hammers really just done his thing.
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vanilla. Itโ€™s a huge explosion of hip-hop and I was going into junior high school right when that was happening and that was the be at that point now Iโ€™m
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like this is my thing that Iโ€™m dancing to like running man dance jumping through my leg three what they say
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three lines in your eyebrows trying to wall out like I that was I was a completely ex and then the kids that I was going to school with now in junior
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high school they were coming from more city environments and now was like oh this is what Iโ€™m doing right um and it was just like, โ€œOh, yeah. This is my thing.โ€ So, thatโ€™s thatโ€™s probably a
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good segue for you later on in life now when you started doing college radio because now youโ€™re youโ€™re exposing the younger versions of
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yourself to just that that up to that point up to that point I made so many friends sharing music. So, like I would
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see a person going through a hard time and school like someone getting picked on in school and I would be like, โ€œHey, borrow my tape for the night or like
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listen to this.โ€ A kid got transferred to my school. My buddy Leadeds when he was a kid and heโ€™s big. The big guy.
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Yeah. Whooping him every day fighting in the hallway every because heโ€™s the biggest kid in school, right? Heโ€™s sitting in the thing like this and home mech. He got the metallic on his back.
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Iโ€™m like, โ€œYou like heavy metal, bro?โ€ Iโ€™m like and I pass some ice Ice Cube the Predator. Iโ€™m like, โ€œYeah, yeah.
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Yeah, thatโ€™s this is for you. Check this out, bro.โ€ He comes in the next day, no jean jacket, just eager like what do you got? Iโ€™m like, โ€œYou ever heard of Tribe
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Called Quest?โ€ Iโ€™m like, โ€œHere we go.โ€ And I got him hooked and this is my best friend. this guy, God bless him, for 30 years of my life. Thatโ€™s dope. Yeah. So,
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so the sharing of the music um for me and my personality, it was the the it was the connector of like, oh, I got the
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music. So, becoming a DJ to have the music is the natural thatโ€™s the natural peak of what I could do. Oh, yeah. And
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but youโ€™re youโ€™re still at at your core, youโ€™re the same guy cuz youโ€™re youโ€™re just connecting. Youโ€™re making connecting the dots, right? I got I got
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whatโ€™s hot. love sharing the stuff and then I would go to these like junior high school dances and they would be like this square bald older guy in the
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back playing the and Iโ€™d be he he doesnโ€™t know what the right records are.
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He doesnโ€™t know the records. And then I was like I I know the records. So then I go and I finagle the turntables for my parents like sophomore year of high
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school. Iโ€™m 15 and now weโ€™re like trying to show up with this [ __ ] and figure it out and and nobody could would teach
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you. Nobody would teach you. You have to figure out. I I gotta say that for you in that in those days too specifically,
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learning how to DJ was like learning how to play the harmonica. Like like nobody thereโ€™s nobody thereโ€™s nobody teaching nobodyโ€™s teaching. Thereโ€™s no thereโ€™s no
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you canโ€™t watch nothing. You canโ€™t you you just got to you got to [ __ ] some turntables and some needles up. You got to figure it out. My first pair was from Uptown. What? Upstairs records in the
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back of the source from Harlem. I bought the starter pack with the belt drive joints. Yeah, the Geminis. The Geminis.
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Canโ€™t even cut on them. Yeah, those are Geminis. I had those, too. A labor of love, man. And doing the high like the high school dances and sweet 16s and everything. And just being like, um,
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this is going to be my little platform of how Iโ€™m going to make money and connect with people. And and another thing when when I was young, like 14 or
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so, a lot of my friends started doing like experimenting with drugs and drinking really heavily. It was really like shocking for me. And I had a parent
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that had been going through struggles with alcohol and was sober at the time, but I had a very I wasnโ€™t into drinking
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or drugs or anything like that. So the DJing gave me an opportunity to be a part of my peer
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group and not participate. So then I would be able to go to the house parties and DJ and everybodyโ€™s going crazy and
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this is ecstasies getting introduced and ketamine and crazy drugs and Iโ€™m like in the corner sober like oh this rocking
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like playing whatever you know what I mean like just kind of low-key dodging the bullet in a way like trying to but I wanted to be included. Yeah. Yeah. So it
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still was still was the coolest. It helped me a lot. All right. So we gonna play a little game. Yeah. Call it on the fly. Go ahead. All right. So, it is
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going to be a fast-paced word association type thing. Iโ€™m going to give you a word or a phrase, okay? And youโ€™re going to say the first thing that comes to mind. Letโ€™s go. Okay. Itโ€™s
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called on the fly. All right. First, Yeah. You got one mic and one verse. Yeah. Whoโ€™s spitting it? Rock him. 86.
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Rock him. 87 Rockim. Okay. But but but okay. Like classic rock of that era.
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Peyton full. Follow the leader. Rock him. Every president. Yeah. that that but but thatโ€™s my the dream modern day right now. Anybody that I could pick right now to spin on it? Nas.
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Nas is my guy. Arguably the greatest.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Heโ€™s heโ€™s you know like you get a Nas verse. I mean what what else? Shout out to my buddy Static Selector works with Nas and has records with Nas. This blows my mind, you know.
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Yeah. Itโ€™s amazing. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Whatโ€™s the one record you never leave out of a Oh, Remo. What do What is
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it? What? What happened to that boy? I play that all every time I DJ. I love that beat though. Smash though not.
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Yeah, itโ€™s like a guilty but like but that boy the way that the Neptune production comes. First off that that thatโ€™s quintessential Neptune. So thatโ€™s
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when thatโ€™s thatโ€™s prime perfect. So thatโ€™s when they was they they had 45% of the airways and it and the record blends
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with everything anything. It creeps in really well and and and the sonically is it cuts through anything. Itโ€™s a great record. I mean, yeah, that that would be
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the first record that comes to mind that I play every single time. Craziest thing youโ€™ve seen go down in a radio studio,
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uncensored version, though. Oh, man. Um I Iโ€™m going to remove one name from this. Take all the No. Okay. I I just
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donโ€™t want to get into this like but uh in Boston on Sunday nights they had a they had a radio show and it was
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sponsored by some guys in town and they spoke about these guys on the air and then they turned around and the dudes
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were all in the studio. So it was like like you really they really like put themselves into a corner like these dudes were in the studio ready to for action. Like Iโ€™ve seen stuff like that.
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Like Iโ€™ve seen um Iโ€™ve seen people do after hours stuff thatโ€™s really crazy like really risking it all bringing
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females into the building late at night and stuff. Thatโ€™s Iโ€™ve seen some crazy stuff like that. Yeah, Iโ€™m sure. Yeah. I
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I was always so happy and lucky to be there that I was always on my best behavior cuz I was like nine times out
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of 10 I was the only white guy at the black radio station. Theyโ€™re like he sound good but I donโ€™t know. And like and Iโ€™m like just trying and then Yeah.
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No, you I was always like trying to just make it work. Yeah. Thatโ€™s dope. Thatโ€™s dope. All right. Whatโ€™s more nerve-wracking? DJing a stadium crowd or
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interviewing a rap legend. So, and and the reason why I asked that cuz we know we we do know. So, you can pull up a
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million a million different video uh clips of of a hip-hop. And the reason I say hip-hop
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legends because when you get to a certain point, yeah, they make it hard to be interviewed on purpose. This is real. It is very difficult to to interview someone that you really enjoy.
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Right. If you listen to their music, youโ€™re going to show up and think you know them and they donโ€™t know you. And that thatโ€™s kind of the hard part cuz
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you are a Iโ€™m a fan first. I love hiphop. I want to share it with people.
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And Iโ€™m like Chris Farley from Saturday Night Live. the Chris idiot. Like thatโ€™s me. Iโ€™m like, โ€œYo, Brock Kim, remember
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when you made paid in full? That was really great.โ€ Like, โ€œNo, but like I got a chance I one time I did an interview series on the red carpet at the BET
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Awards, BET Hip Hop Awards, I mean Future, uh, Q-Tip, all these Khaled, all these people coming down. But when I saw
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Rockim, I told my partner I was with to shut the mics off, shut the cameras off, and I just wanted to thank him and talk to him. And I didnโ€™t I I probably could
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have gotten pictures and a full interview. But for me personally, and I was I mean I was chasing Kendrick that day. I was fighting for interviews with
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really talented people. But when he came I was like shut it was such an instinct.
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I didnโ€™t even I didnโ€™t even think about I didnโ€™t prepare that. But my instinct was shut it down, right? Thank you right for what youโ€™ve done for this. Yeah. You
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know what I mean? No, thatโ€™s thatโ€™s thatโ€™s dope. All right. Describe your DJ style in three words. Oh my god, man. an
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absolute train wreck. I throw myself under the bus when I DJ. I donโ€™t prepare anything. Three words. A [ __ ] train wreck.
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Yo, [ __ ] Dope, though. Itโ€™s a dope train wreck. A dope train wreck. No, who doesnโ€™t like a train? Iโ€™m a Iโ€™m an improp performer, so
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I sometimes it can just be But Iโ€™m really throwing myself into it, dog. Yeah. Yeah. Itโ€™s all Iโ€™m all in. Yeah.
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Okay. All right. What song instantly brings you back to Lawrence Mass in the in the 90s? Oh man, I would say um it
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takes me back to when I was young young young young. I would say
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um it would be an 80s record. Okay. I would tell you what my childhood screams deaf leopard. Okay. Pour some sugar on
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me. My motherโ€™s 85 Ford Escort. You know what Iโ€™m saying? Like so like like it like so this is whatโ€™s dope about the 80s, right? Specifically the you know the mid 80s.
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There was a point in time to where there was such uh so much so much melding of just music and culture, right? And so
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like everybody listened to that [ __ ] It was awesome. Everybody everybody Yeah.
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Yeah. listen to songs like and everybody seen Rad massive pop records written really well
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yo like like uh uh uh uh Bobby Brown Every Little Step uh Hanging Tough, New Kids on the Block. Yes. Uh uh things
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like like records that I noticed you keep naming all this these these Boston acts. I would stuff like Biff Poison, you know what I mean? Like New Edition,
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Cool It Now, you know what I mean? I get it. I get it. More Star all the way. Hits beat. Yeah, they are hits.
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Undeniables. Undeniables. You You know whatโ€™s crazy too is that you know because of these things and and youโ€™ve been in the room and a part of and
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witnessed like a mass amount of peopleโ€™s comeups. So like youโ€™ve been everybody from O2 to now. Yes. Which is crazy. You
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you youโ€™re like how I feel. So my claim to fame is Iโ€™ve had every cereal from like 85 to now. Cereal head. Yeah. Yo,
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Iโ€™m into this. The novelty stuff of the 80s was the best ever. Listen,
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crazy stuff. Ghostbusters, Mr. T, Allstar Crunch, Nerd, Smurfberry Crunch, all you know, the all the above. Yes.
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You were that for all of these crazy ascensions from nothing to something.
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And youโ€™ve youโ€™ve interviewed and talked to like the whoโ€™s who of of of just the industry. It it was it was a part of the
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job, but it was also like the greatest little like gift you could get. Like being able to talk to someone like JCole
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or like I sat with Kendrick. Thereโ€™s an interview you probably saw on the internet with me in a room with Kendrick uh when Good Kid Mad City. That was the
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week that Good Kid City uh Good Kid Mad City had dropped. So he was really new.
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I knew what he was. I knew what it was going to be. But you never know itโ€™s going to be this. Whiz Khalifa. The first time I saw him, I was like, โ€œThis kid is like 6โ€™5โ€ with these tattoos.
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Something going on with this kid. And then I kind of was in the beginning, too. Like, I thought he was cool. I I was into it. But then I watched him and I was like, โ€œOh, heโ€™s going to do it.โ€
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Watch. And then he was doing You stream when we werenโ€™t even doing that. And then I saw that effort and then I watched it crack, bros. Really crazy.
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You You were doing what DJs do, though.
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you you were, you know, helping to break artists but in a in a unique way. You know, I got it from from Clue. So, cuz I
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remember the Clue freestyles when he had Nori and Cannabis and all of them when they were brand new. So, if you can get
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the guys when theyโ€™re new and hot first, you can ride the wave with them going into the game. And I I learned from guys
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like Clinton Sparks and my man Chubby Chub. Heโ€™s got great Boston DJs that were like branding the brand like what
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is what is this thing? Itโ€™s itโ€™s Peter Parker Spider-Man. What is that? What Mr. Peter? What does that stand for? And so you really have to position yourself
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with artists and brands in a very thoughtful way to pull this off. Take me back to when you heard that generational talent like like a Mac Miller. Yeah.
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Right. I have a great story. Mac. I used to talk to Mac when he was in high school on the phone in the cafeteria his senior year. Thatโ€™s crazy. Who kid
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called me to get Mac Millerโ€™s phone number because, you know, I was the only one that had it. Thatโ€™s crazy. Mac was a He was a really good kid. the drug. He
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got into drugs really fast and I remember him it happening kind of fast for him and it changed his personality a little bit but overall he was phenomenal
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and he even when I interviewed him the long form stuff at go95 um he was really thoughtful. He was really great. Yeah. I I put a tweet out
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I said if if Nas was a little white kid from the suburbs took that and put it on his website. I remember cuz he would brand
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new artist at the time. It was like this is before kids. So I was able to he gave me exclusive records. I used to speak
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with him and and and he was he was a great kid, man. Mac was one of those uber talented like like way too talented
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for his own good type, you know. Sant broant. And he said he has a line. He said, โ€œI saw the brightest lights and I went for the hardest drugs.โ€ The talent
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and the spotlight uh are like sometimes can be oil and water. the gift that helps you create this wonderful thing.
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And even with Kendrick recently, I was saying to my wife, I was like, โ€œThink of this guy. What is he? Five, five, 5โ€™7.
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This little guy out there with 50,000 people singing along with the song. You got to be wired a certain way to even
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pull that off.โ€ Yeah. Itโ€™s not for everybody, man. No. No. Itโ€™s not. You could have the talent and not have the thing to do that. Yeah. That thereโ€™s a
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certain Thereโ€™s a certain Yeah. Thereโ€™s a certain switch you got to be able to click to be able to put
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yourself in the right headsp space to be able to shoulder that type of Dude, itโ€™s not a light thing. Itโ€™s a heavy lift.
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And Iโ€™ve seen artists go through it backstage. Iโ€™ve seen guys come off stage looking like they left a piece of themselves out there. Iโ€™ve seen guys
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looking for vices before they went on stage, you know, trying to get through it. So, like, and Iโ€™m talking about established guys who we know, you know
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what I mean, that were having struggles, you I would say the the the personification of the the
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different places an artist goes through would be watching a DMX show. So, oh man. So, he first off, Iโ€™ve Iโ€™ve Thereโ€™s
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not Iโ€™ll put Okay. The three best performances Iโ€™ve ever seen on in my life. Yeah. Yeah. Two of them were with
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Michael Jackson. So, I saw Crazy. You saw Mike twice. Twice. God. Yeah. At the Garden, you know, so Oh my god. Listen, Mike Michael Jackson had grown men cry.
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Mike couldnโ€™t do three fast songs in a row. Mm. They would do two fast songs in and then in a Prime MV when Famous was
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really famous. Exactly. And he was putting out a joint every four years. So it was like you had to wait for the Olympics to come out for Michael Jackson. Everything was number one.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So to show you thereโ€™s a few people that have that kind of that whatever that it is that make people feel a certain way.
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Grown men so much so. And Iโ€™m going to show you how he just itโ€™s something about the aura. I went to was in Vegas.
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We went to the Michael Jackson experience, right? The the damn hologram had me in tears, bro. Wow. Like like in
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[ __ ] literal tears. Like like Kill the World came on. Like our lives. Yeah.
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Thereโ€™s thereโ€™s a I I believe I truly believe this with with art. Whether I donโ€™t care what kind of art it is, if you can tap into emotion. Yeah. Thatโ€™s
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what it is. Thatโ€™s where itโ€™s at. I always always said with the radio, itโ€™s all itโ€™s about making them feel something. Whether theyโ€™re angry at you or theyโ€™re excited, as long as theyโ€™re
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feeling something. And then there was times in in in when I was doing B96, the character I was kind of playing on B96 was a little bit more of an aggressive
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thing. And we were really like, yo, just trying to get people fired up like what can we get away with? What can we what can we get them to talk about? Because
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it was such a disconnect before social media, you know? I was on like an island. It didnโ€™t matter. Do whatever. Get them [ __ ] mad. I mean, whatever.
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The the next to that that feeling was DMX, dude. because he you ran you through the gauntlet, bro. Like you go
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from How do you go from, you know, that the the the from growling to to to prayer to crying? You saw a hard knock life tour. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. That was Listen, first he was whooping ass. He was he was drinking that blood that that
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No, I I sound in the last big soundet they had he was here and uh I know his DJ is a heavy hitter. Weโ€™re both in the
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same DJ crew. So, non-stop, shout out to him. And he heโ€™s like, โ€œYou want to meet X? You want to meet X?โ€ I was like, โ€œDefinitely.โ€ So I go up into the
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trailer and heโ€™s in there having like a sit down with Carl Anthony Towns. So itโ€™s X and Big Cat. And Catโ€™s like sitting down for counsel, you know what
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I mean? Heโ€™s like leaning in like soaking in the game. And I walk in, Iโ€™m like, โ€œOh, excuse me.โ€ Whatever. And we stand up and I have a picture with Carl
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Anthony Towns and me and DMX. I didnโ€™t even look. I just turned to X and I was like, I just want to tell you, man, that
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you are one of the greatest. If you never heard this from today, at least, youโ€™re one of the best to ever touch a microphone. And he was so gracious, man.
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Yeah. He was heโ€™s so I met I met X through through W through Wadine. Yeah.
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And uh he Yeah. Well, I was doing a he was going to do a restaurant thing that I was helping out with, but uh one of the stipulations is I I got to meet I
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got to be I got to be DMX, bro. I want to do the RC cars. Whatever. Exactly. I I got to I got to meet I got to meet X Yo. And so heโ€™s just a super super duper
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humble. Not what you think. You thought No. He was so pe like cool, man. And and then and in and Bronx and Yoners is like
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Yeah. And and I used to live in Yoners, too. So we, you know, so we had we had that we had the Slob Blonde connection.
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So it was some some [ __ ] to go. Itโ€™s very cool. there. So, who who did you see early that that you completely
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championed before they even thought about themselves being where they are now? Oh, wow. An artist or like a person.
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D somebody I championed early that didnโ€™t even see it in themselves, right?
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You know, I work with a lot of DJs, other DJs. Itโ€™s rare for a DJ to be an advocate for other DJs. is a very
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selfish thing. So, I can think about two, three, five different guys that I put a lot of energy, a lot of uh
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information into and theyโ€™re flourishing and theyโ€™re doing really well. And I never really expected uh uh what I did
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want is everyone to be successful. I didnโ€™t want to be the only one to have something and and to have peers or people and if I had to lift you up a
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little bit to get up with me, I would do that. and and and whatever that sacrifice is to me it was worth it to have a peer then because I had to leave
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home for this. I couldnโ€™t bring any of my day ones with me any of my real close friends and to make friends on the fly as a at a late 20s early 30s can be
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challenging especially when youโ€™re like talking to 400,000 people every week. Facts. Facts.
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So whoโ€™s the one of whoโ€™s the one the one person you could say that and you donโ€™t have to give a name but that you
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you saw more about what their potential what they you know lack of a ceiling was more than they saw in themselves because and the reason why I say that because I
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I I also with following your career thereโ€™s a lot of mentorship that you just you just naturally do right yeah
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because for if coming from uh sports itโ€™s like a teaching thing like I I Iโ€™m not going to be someone thatโ€™s just going to take take and then the the I
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had so many DJs that I met on the way up and they were awful like sociopaths like just rough [ __ ] really whack people
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like not likable guys and I just said I just want to be the opposite of that. I canโ€™t really give you a name but like
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interns that became friends guys the local bar DJs that now are DJing on huge stages and stuff like that. Iโ€™m proud of
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everybody and and part of my career was sharing this stuff. Itโ€™s itโ€™s itโ€™s a unique part of my specific career that sharing um my stuff has been part of it.
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Right. And it a lot like sort of parallels between you know DJing and even just music and and the professional
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cooking field is the same. So itโ€™s very itโ€™s a very much blood sport as far as the competition, right? Yeah, very
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rarely, like you said, we run into, just like you said, you run into DJs that are complete, you know, [ __ ] and there there chefs like that, too. I get it now, though, why guys had walls up. When
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I was young, I was thinking about it last week. Iโ€™m like, I get it. Itโ€™s tough. It makes sense. But but hereโ€™s the other thing. This is what So, when you get to a certain point and
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comfortable with who you are in your own skin, with your skill set, and then what you bring to the table, you understand.
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And I and I and I I would have to believe that you got to this point probably before you even thought about it. You get to a point to where you understand that one, like you said, itโ€™s
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a communal thing on for many different aspects, but two, I have no like Iโ€™m Iโ€™m this way to this day. I have no problem
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sharing all that I know. And the reason that and the reason hereโ€™s the this is when I really came to grips with it.
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Hereโ€™s the deal. I I I have no Iโ€™ll show and share with anybody all the knowledge I have. Yeah, at the end of the day on
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their best day, they can never do it how I do it. No, this is me and you are the same type of guy. David Banner gave me a really great interview early in my
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career when I was like an intern. I was in a studio kind of typing on something.
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He comes walking in. Iโ€™m like, Banner, like really extroverted, like heโ€™s like, โ€œYo, whatโ€™s up?โ€ He walks in, we sit down for 45 minutes, do an interview,
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weโ€™re laughing. Itโ€™s great. Like I never met him. He had play out so he was popping. Weโ€™re doing Weโ€™re laughing. He misses the interview that heโ€™s supposed
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to do in the main studio. And I laughed at Iโ€™m like, well, yo, like why did you why did you waste an hour with me, man?
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And heโ€™s looked at me and he goes, I donโ€™t know who youโ€™re going to become.
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And I was like, and it touched that really pause, really touched me. And I was like, oh, this is a really genuine guy. So Banner said that to me and then
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I went on and used that interview on a demo tape that ended up getting me the job in Minnesota. So that interview will help me get this job out here. So then
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when I get the job and Iโ€™m having the success, it was kind of even the beginning of my B96 success was a little bit beyond my expectations. Even at that
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point, I was like, whoa, this is a bigger deal than I thought I was going to be able to pull off. So I got to run with it. I go back to New York and I see
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Banner. Iโ€™m like, is this some party? I tell the label rep, take me to the party. I got to see Banner. I got to go see Banner. So I go into the party and I go up to him. Iโ€™m like, you remember me?
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we we spoke and you did this thing for me and you did this interview and I got a job because of it and itโ€™s like changed my whole life and he was like
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all I ask is that you just pay it forward and itโ€™s it was like a bell like b youโ€™re like oh okay gotcha and then I
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just from that point was like how many people can I affect the way he affected me right thatโ€™s dope thatโ€™s dope shout to B I spoke to him on the text like uh
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couple weeks ago heโ€™s a Ben is like So for for for me and I never met him, but but heโ€™s heโ€™s one of those guys that
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that you he makes you feel like you know him if youโ€™ve never met him just because of how he you know and he just he just
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looks and presents to be super duper genuine and I I I canโ€™t see it. I went and boxed with him. We when I was
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training, I was working with with like a uh uh trainers out here boxing and I took him to a gym and we both had like trainers in the thing and weโ€™re both
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like working out and youโ€™re like doing this thing and you look over and itโ€™s you canโ€™t become unfamous. You see homie
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from the video is in the ring with you and weโ€™re throwing hands and youโ€™re like man itโ€™s like ah heโ€™s just a wonderful guy man and that relationship in the
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early on gave me a lot of confidence like oh this guy is giving me two two minutes of his time you know. Yeah, thatโ€™s dope. So, speak to me about, and we touched on this a little earlier.
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Well, you did as well about, you know, being the white guy, right? So, I know that thereโ€™s something Iโ€™m very familiar with. Yeah, man. You canโ€™t shake it. No,
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itโ€™s itโ€™s on me, man. But thereโ€™s thereโ€™s a thereโ€™s a thing. So, I I I in my humble opinion, I believe that hip-hop is the most inclusive genre of
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music to ever exist. And thereโ€™s nothing thereโ€™s nothing that will ever come close. Thereโ€™s DNA in from every other genre of music embedded into hip-hop.
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Yes. The reason why I believe that most hip-hop heads could not donโ€™t have biases is because they have a reverence
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for the art. Therefore, you have to have a reverence for the people. 100%. And thatโ€™s why music is the conduit to
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eradicate all the nonsense. I believe that we talked about this on the phone with with the the explosion of mainstream hip hop in the early 90s
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going into the โ€˜9s, the television shows that were kind of played out with whether it was Martin or Fresh Prince or you go back to like Good Times or even
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my family watched the Cosby Show every time it was on. It was um kind of like mainstreaming and kind of connecting in
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hip-hop is itโ€™s tough to be to hate somebody that you admire. And when the the the way that things were
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playing out in the 90s, whether it was Shaq or Jordan or Penny Hardaway or Ice Cube or whoever, there was a plethora of people for me to admire and and there
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and then when you learn the stories of these guys, where they really come from, what how this really how this music was really created, who created this music,
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where it really comes from, it becomes like a whole another deeper thing that you can really delve yourself into. A lot of people just take the I like this
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record, I like the sound, but we were like diving into it a little deeper.
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Absolutely. So, so talk to me about how how hiphop as a whole, as a community, has made you to feel no different then.
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No. So, I No, I believe you. I know youโ€™re going because that right when we speak itโ€™s like itโ€™s like Iโ€™m talking to uh a kindred soul, like a kindred
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spirit. when we were speaking and we come from pretty different parts of the close but different parts. Yeah, this is
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a unique thing. I Iโ€™m a pretty authentic guy. Iโ€™ve always have been. Um I have a
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lot of friends of all nationalities and things, but because of my talent or whatever, how I played it through sports
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and through this being accepted in places where people like me may not be accepted. Iโ€™m aware of this. And and
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being aware that maybe because of my blue eyes or whatever, I got into certain situations. It was like a trick.
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Iโ€™d be like, you know, I infiltrated the system, right? You know, [ __ ] I know I got us in here, right? And I would
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just open the doors up for all the real street [ __ ] and I would be like, it was like, you thought I was one of you. No,
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it it it it goes back to and this is fairly deep growing up having friends
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and being a person that really loves people genuinely and having some whack friendships, kids treating me weird like
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[ __ ] was weird sometimes with some of the kids growing up in New Hampshire.
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When I got to back to Lawrence when I was 14 or 15, now Iโ€™m seeing different
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things. When when I the my basketball talent got me to Bridgton Academy with kids from New York City and Detroit,
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this was the beginning of, okay, these guys are very cool, very serious guys, and theyโ€™re showing me respect. kids
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that like go are like street kids hustling from the boys club got them to the prep school. This
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is the toughest kid Iโ€™ve ever played ball with and we both really love Jay-Z reasonable doubt and weโ€™re connecting and weโ€™re heโ€™s passing me the ball on
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the fast break. This is where Iโ€™m supposed to be. So for me when if Iโ€™m looking at the group I was taught very donโ€™t sweat anybody that doesnโ€™t sweat
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you. So, if people are going to be weird over here, Iโ€™m gonna go over here. If people are being really friendly over here, guess whoโ€™s sitting in the back of the cafeteria watching [ __ ] BET? Me.
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You know what I mean? Like, and Iโ€™m with the guys. And And I had this wonderful moment when I was in prep school. A guy, we on a tournament. A guy robbed our
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room. Stole like a Ax leather jacket from me, a Nintendo 64. Like a whole my whole room got robbed. And I kind of
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figured out who did it. And I was like, I think I think that kid did it. He was je I can tell the jealousy of this kid.
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Heโ€™s a weird kid from West Virginia. And I think he my style rubbed him the wrong way. So heโ€™s like, Iโ€™m steal that [ __ ] So I come back and Iโ€™m like, yo, man did
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it. You know what I mean? And he came in the room and heโ€™s real huff and puffing.
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Iโ€™ll buy this whole dorm. Rich kid, you know, third time at the prep school, been failing SATs, you know what I mean? So heโ€™s in there huffing and puffing.
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Heโ€™s mad cuz he canโ€™t get into [ __ ] whatever school he want to get into. So all right, cool. So then it goes around school that heโ€™s going to beat me up and
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Iโ€™m like a word. So weโ€™re in the cafeteria in this big ass room and Iโ€™m in the back with the guys and Iโ€™m like
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this like off animal like a wolf in the back like this just looking at this kid and I look at Kay and Iโ€™m like watch I
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go watch this. I just get up and this is 250 athletes in 45 minutes northwest of
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Portland in the middle of the woods all training to be like scholarship athletes. This is like prep school for Itโ€™s like a serious business. Class A
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New England prep. Big deal. So, I get up in front of the whole school and I walk down and I sit across from the kid. This is a [ __ ] defensive end. This guyโ€™s
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got shoulders on. Heโ€™s a big boy. Heโ€™s like your size but bigger. And Iโ€™m me.
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You know what I mean? I never been bigger than this. So, Iโ€™m like sitting down and I go, โ€œHey, man.โ€ I was like, โ€œI heard youโ€™re going to beat me up.โ€
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And heโ€™s like, โ€œI am.โ€ I said and I said I look at her I go you should do it right now. I said you should do it right now.
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And Iโ€™m like cooked at this point and I look and my friend KB from Detroit is getting up and walking around in front
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of the room and he sits down next to me and heโ€™s like you ready? And I go you should do it right now. And everybodyโ€™s
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waiting and I go like this to his tray and I go dump his [ __ ] tray on the ground in the cafeteria and
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everybodyโ€™s, you know, itโ€™s all athletes in the โ€˜9s and Iโ€™m like, โ€œWhat are we going to do, buddy?โ€ And KB was so scary.
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Nigerian Kitty like kept folded like origami. This is not experiences that you ever forget for your whole life. I
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just took you on a journey. Listen, so that that kid is heโ€™s one of those kids that end up on Jenny Jones, right? Heโ€™s been heโ€™s been in the gym for like 20 years structure. Heโ€™s still trying to
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make it. Theyโ€™re not going to accept you guys. Itโ€™s not going to happen. But and then I literally I speak to my friend K two days ago like we heโ€™s in heโ€™s in Dallas. Heโ€™s doing amazing things. Okay.
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So super producer Gabe. Itโ€™s we weโ€™re beating on the table too much. So we Iโ€™ll bust this thing open.
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Let get feedback. All right. So Iโ€™m sorry. Itโ€™s going to be a editing nightmare. All right. My my bad. No, I should have cut you in.
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I should have cut in. I was like, โ€œGod, someoneโ€™s got left fingers in that good, bro. I see I see you just had a Itโ€™s a
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cafeteria backlash, you No, it happens, bro. Iโ€™m sorry, but that No, but do you ask me like of me and and you and you
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kind of worded in a way that was eloquent of me kind of being accepted in a way? I donโ€™t take it lightly. Iโ€™m very
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Itโ€™s very uh Iโ€™m honored, you know what I mean?โ€ and and and that type of relationships donโ€™t uh but I I also
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think so this is and it is a um itโ€™s one of those things that you have to approach with with care because there is
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a a certain reverence that um that the culture gives any participant yes and so you have to be so
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I donโ€™t care black white or or green you still have to be accepted so you can be you can be of you know of a certain race
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and still not be accepted into the coach. I know a handful of guys like that. You know what Iโ€™m saying? So, I know I know a [ __ ] ton of guys like that. And so, the the fact is when you
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when you get that stamp like, okay, you youโ€™re one of us, thatโ€™s a itโ€™s not something that that I think anybody should, you know, uh take lightly. And I
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believe I believe that that is the major difference between the golden era and today. The barrier to entry is is a lot lower. Oh my god. Thereโ€™s no barrier.
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this [ __ ] But I was hazed and watched for the right reasons to make sure that I was in it for the right reasons and and like when I joined Heavy
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Hitters and I became part of that DJ crew and uh my buddy Haitian Pat was like, you know, we watched you for 10 years and I was like, does this like an
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olive branch or something ever like Iโ€™m here, bud? No, but they, you know, guys switched up. EDM music came around, looked appealing, people switched up,
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and I I kind of just has been my mission from the beginning. You know what I mean? Is staying true to this stuff.
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Gabโ€™s going to kill us. Sorry, buddy. I have ADHD. I cannot control any of this.
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So, so do I. So, Iโ€™m going crazy back here.
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The wrong guest. And reflect. So, youโ€™ve youโ€™ve done a lot of like major things
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specifically on radio in a lot of markets. So this is like something that most donโ€™t ever get to touch. Thatโ€™s amazing, bro. So how you can bounce. So
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a lot of So before when Iโ€™m talking about even non- syndicated shows, Iโ€™m talking about actually being in the market. Yeah. Go and go move in the
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market and and and become the number one show in the market. Dogs, take your city over, man. And itโ€™s not an easy thing to do. And um it is a itโ€™s a hectic thing.
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Iโ€™m going to tell you the the real story behind when you see me do this stuff.
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one or two people make that decision in a office and they say hereโ€™s the group we have in front of
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us maybe no bring this guy in thereโ€™s been 30 people vying for that position I just walked in and now I got it and some
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sometimes I look different so right away thereโ€™s adversaries in the building thereโ€™s naysayers in the building and
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youโ€™re trying to navigate that so the whole thing was a challenge I talked to someone last week and I was joking Iโ€™m like my career was super challenging and
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and it was I think there was points where youโ€™re youโ€™re moving to a place youโ€™ve never been. You donโ€™t know the good guys from the bad guys. Youโ€™re
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youโ€™re youโ€™re just trying to and youโ€™re performing at the highest possible level that you could perform at. Itโ€™s something that me and Remo talk about it all the time. I donโ€™t have a therapist.
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I just call Remo when heโ€™s at work. And he going to get you on payroll. Yeah.
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No, heโ€™s on trust and believe heโ€™s on payroll. and no just trying to figure out the nuances of this whole thing.
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Itโ€™s not easy. So because of that, what would you say and the reason that was a lead into this question, what would you
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say would was some moments of heights that was like, you know what, cuz I I have to believe I have to believe you
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you were so you were so much on a a bullet train that you could it was had to be a blur. It had to been like like I donโ€™t even know like Yeah, I was I donโ€™t
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even know how I got here. I I I didnโ€™t drink as a kid at all. When I played sports in college, I didnโ€™t drink in college. Um I kind of like started when
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I got into radio more cuz it was free and available. A lot of stuff was fueled with like Red Bulls and vodka, like fired up at parties cuz yo, you know,
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you bring me you say, โ€œOh, weโ€™re going to bring you this thing, give you this radio job. Youโ€™re going to be at the club. Itโ€™s great.โ€ Dude, youโ€™re walking into someone elseโ€™s city, into their
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party, into their radio station, and youโ€™re trying to like move the needle at this thing. Nobody knows you. So, it it
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it was really crazy. I donโ€™t know how I pulled it off. This I should have quit a bunch of times, but I made a life. I made like a commitment to this and and
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and it felt I felt really lucky. When weโ€™re growing up, you know this, like youโ€™re growing up and everybodyโ€™s like, Iโ€™m going to be this when I grow up. Iโ€™m
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going to be that when I grow up. Iโ€™m going to play in the NFL. Iโ€™m going to play in this. And everybody has these kind of things that they talk about through junior high school into high
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school. And I watched people just quit on their [ __ ] And I was like, yo, you didnโ€™t even try, right? I just said to
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myself, Iโ€™m going to go all the way in and Iโ€™m going to be the one that pulls it off. And then then now you make that
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decision. The same decision I said that Iโ€™m going to make this division three basketball team or Iโ€™m going to go do this. But even as a young kid, I was
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transferring school. School didnโ€™t I couldnโ€™t make this. Iโ€™ll go to this school. Oh, this this is cool. Oh, weโ€™ll go to this one. Oh. Oh, this is great.
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Weโ€™re going to this college. I was not really hellbent on people, places, or things slowing me down from getting this. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, was not an
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option. And and itโ€™s not an option. The athlete in you that going through those, you know, that heavy uh conditioning as
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far as mental dexterity and and strength and willpower is what carries you through all that all that [ __ ] So, when
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I started this conversation, I told you about how my parents had me like in that little pod dunk little area. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know how when you get cut from the freshman team, you get cut from the JV team, youโ€™re like seventh man your junior year, and out of that group,
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youโ€™re the only one that plays college basketball. Do you understand the effort? Yeah. From 16 to 20, I was like
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laser focused to do this. It saved my life. Like just going and playing division three, going getting recruited,
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going doing this. That was enough of a you got that thing in your head says go do that, go do that, go do that. And
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you listen the validation of that. Now all I do is listen to the voice in my head. Iโ€™m not listening to anybody else cuz the coaches were like youโ€™ll never
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make this team. And then I came went to prep school, come back and Iโ€™m winning.
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Iโ€™m like what the [ __ ] Iโ€™m like an animal. You said I couldnโ€™t. Yeah. Yeah. Iโ€™m dunking this high over the rim now.
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you see when like totally uh the old Chinese proverb once you see the road broadly you can see it in all things I I
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I did that and then once I did that I can do anything I put my mind to it to an extent absolutely no and thatโ€™s
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thatโ€™s the you know that is the secret to to most I believe that you know my
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grandfather used to say this to me all the time he he talked to me like I was a 30-year-old man when I was like seven and itโ€™s like those are like knowledge
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nugget grenades though. Thatโ€™s the best knowledge grenades that go off like 20 years later. Yeah. Like whether you you know what Iโ€™m saying? Whether you believe you can or canโ€™t, youโ€™re right.
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Right. [ __ ] like that. My daughter.
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Yeah. Facts. And and my mother really was like an advocate. My dad was on the fence with all of this stuff. My mother was like, โ€œNo, no, no, no, no.โ€ And she put me on stage when I was two and a
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half at fashion shows and and like like modeling things when I was really young.
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Yeah. The blue eyes. I get threw me out in front of 4,000 people and I I was speaking with my hands and uh so I was
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very comfortable to be around large groups of people and getting on stage I was desensitized to it at a very very
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young age with the way this you know the way the world is today specifically with social media and everything and peopleโ€™s
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skew of what success is and what it is not uh because itโ€™s off of the optics but how how would you tell your younger
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how to measure what success truly is. I I think that we talk about it all the time behind the scenes because you can
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say you have to say to yourself, what did you get in this for? Did you get it?
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Did I walk into this saying, โ€œIโ€™m going to get rich doing this.โ€ I never once said that. I never once said, โ€œIโ€™m gonna
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get rich off of this stuff.โ€ I said, โ€œI want to be on the highest level. I want to be respected. I want to be a part of
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it.โ€ And to be a part of it even on whatever level that I am, itโ€™s the itโ€™s oh my what a gift be to be a to be a
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contributor to the success of artists or uh the shows weโ€™ve thrown and the radio stations. God, itโ€™s a itโ€™s a wonderful
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gift, man. Absolutely. Letโ€™s get into a part of the culture which I think we have the most work to get towards to to
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to fix this industry. You know, hip-hop is a young genre, right? But however, we have a tendency unlike other genres
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other like rock or jazz or even country to you know kind of dismiss our legends or or or when you get to a certain tenure when you get to a certain tenure.
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So thereโ€™s rock bands and thereโ€™s you know jazz artists and country singers that tour for Aerosmith is on tour next year. Iโ€™m pretty sure Metallica
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Metallica every time it so much so that the brand supersedes the whatever because theyโ€™re torn with not even with
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maybe one original member. People are wearing the t-shirts donโ€™t even know donโ€™t even know the song. Exactly.
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Exactly. So yeah, right now you go to Target big itโ€™s a bigger than them. Right. I understand what youโ€™re saying.
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So, how do you feel about and what do you think is the fix to get for hip-hop
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to really pour into the the legend acts so that you know, first off, I donโ€™t believe that you can age out of of
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talent. No. And you canโ€™t you cannot age out of a skill set that you spent your whole life honing and you own that lane.
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like thereโ€™s a if if the rest in peace to the guy the member of crisscross that passed away if he didnโ€™t go we would be
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seeing crisscross performances right now I think weโ€™re in a new space I I someone told me this recently Instagram really
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saved the legacy acts in hip-hop before Instagram licked off it was a couple of guys it was like Afroman was doing shows
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Bis Marquee was DJing but we didnโ€™t have the legacy kind of what we have now with everybody and When Go 95 started, I
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remember Rock Nation signed Jim Jones and Fat Joe, and I was like, โ€œThose guys are kind of older.โ€ And they were like, โ€œNo, no, no. Theyโ€™re coming up on 20
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year anniversaries. Thereโ€™s going to be legacy celebrations.โ€ And to watch what Rock Nation has done with Fat Joeโ€™s career in the last 10 years is
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mindboggling how what theyโ€™ve transferred Joe into is this huge celebrity now, much bigger than the rap stuff he did. And to me, itโ€™s really
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interesting to see the growth of these guys. Uh, Wuang Clan going on tour again. Nas puts out six albums in the last four or five years. To me, I I I
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think that itโ€™s kind of moved into niche territory, right? What we had, what you had, what I had when we were young, I
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think itโ€™s to be cherished because I donโ€™t think weโ€™re going to get it again the way we had it. I think thatโ€™s was amazing for what it was. Now, we have uh
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Joey Badass over here doing something thatโ€™s reminiscent over here or or we have guys that are going to fill those voids. But then you have the Playboy
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Cardi stuff and these other things that are which is to me hip-hop is itโ€™s more like what punk rock is to classic rock.
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Itโ€™s like another subg genre over here.
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And I donโ€™t really even consider it hip-hop personally. Like theyโ€™re rapping. Itโ€™s a black artist this but if
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you look at the landscape and the climate of theyโ€™re kind of filling the where corn was or where Limp Biscuit was. They theyโ€™re filling those spaces
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where you go to the show, itโ€™s all white suburban teenagers at the show. Youโ€™re like, โ€œOh, this is the this is the heavy metal of this era. Weโ€™re in a new space.
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Weโ€™re like, okay, so itโ€™s obvious right now. You have seen me for years doing what Iโ€™m doing. I stopped um coloring my
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beard because it was burning my face and I was trying to put it on and it was fine sometimes, but sometimes it will burn and I had burn. It was awful. So, I
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stopped doing it. feel really good, but the the nervousness of doing this is now Iโ€™m like waving the flag that Iโ€™m like
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obviously in my 40s or whatever. So, this is rare space, right? I think
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for Okay, you have your star talents, right? Star DJs, marquee guys, but then thereโ€™s another subsidiary of like, you
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know, people like me or theyโ€™re like, you know, still something but not Iโ€™m not kid Capri, right?
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Thereโ€™s a whole new day for people like me. I donโ€™t have to pretend to be young.
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I donโ€™t have to chase young things. Our group is underserved. Theyโ€™re looking for people donโ€™t want me to go do young
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things. They want me to continue to do what I was doing before. So, and thatโ€™s what they tell me when I donโ€™t uh we donโ€™t need that. 35 45 people, theyโ€™re
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not listening to mumble rap, right? No, not at all. But hereโ€™s the hereโ€™s the beauty of it though. So there are a a
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trove of young cats that appreciate I believe that because you again you cannot have a reverence for what was or
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what is and a lot of these what is is sampling what was. Itโ€™s like and like these theyโ€™re sampling the sample. You talking about barrier to entry earlier.
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Yeah. That alone sets us apart from this generation. All the artists, all the DJs
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had to carry crates, apprentice things, do things. These kids are respectfully getting right on. But the easier road
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doesnโ€™t build the strongest competitors all the time. So now youโ€™ve got a guy thatโ€™s great. Youโ€™re doing great. Doing great, kid. See you in three years. Iโ€™m
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on my 30th summer, right? I donโ€™t like Iโ€™m never going to quit. Right.
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The perseverance of this is Yeah. And and you also have some key reference points to know how to how to how to
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gauge the climate because youโ€™ve youโ€™ve seen this [ __ ] in waves, right? Weโ€™ve seen it come and go. Exactly. 100% time.
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So, you know, when you came when you came back to the market for 95.3 when that that was your resurgence
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and actually I believe it was the height of the local rap scene. It was amazing
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and that to me perfect timing per I mean it couldnโ€™t have been sound set was peaking the local artist scene was
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peaking it was really easy I had helped kind of get him fired up 06 7 8 9 get
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them going but then they did the work on their own when I came back I I had a choice I could go to Dallas and run like three or four throwback stations PD them
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afternoon drive them and live in Texas or I could go back and do go 95 53 and I chose going 953 because I knew the
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connection I had to the market. I knew the artists were really established and really flying and I just kind of knew that they were going to let me do what
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was supposed to be done, not what I just I didnโ€™t do what I wanted to do. I was trying to do what was right. Yeah. You
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you you were one of those guys that that was the voice of the city and is the voice. though I believe still because as
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far as hip-hop goes like for as for a guy that came from New York, right? And
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back then radio was it like if you if you if everything you learned what was hot
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based on what the DJs were break DJs were breaking records. Yes. And this is something I know is kind of a lost thing
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on on today. Thereโ€™s nobodyโ€™s breaking anything. You canโ€™t really you canโ€™t really break a record on radio. You have to break it through digital, right? Just
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digital is is everywhere. Itโ€™s itโ€™s too itโ€™s it doesnโ€™t make sense anymore. But yeah. No, no, no. They were breaking.
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You would go to the radio because it was the only place to hear the stuff that weโ€™re getting on the internet. Yeah.
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This it was the MySpace, the white labels, the underground records that you couldnโ€™t get anywhere else. you would I
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used to drive in in a 88 Chevy Silverado uh from like north of Boston to like southern Connecticut to tape flex and to
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listen to them and try to tape them on like a boom box the batteries and drive back and have the cassettes and stuff like cuz it was she was crazy the best
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that that that part of it is sort of like itโ€™s like the sneaky game, right? Itโ€™s like I remember having to go and wait in line
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at Dr. J, you know, and and exciting morning. Exactly. And then and and and that put you in a different headsp space. You appreciate it a little
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differently because of you had some skin in the game. Iโ€™ll tell you, man, I am really appreciative of the era that I grew up in, the time that I came up in
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the music business. I got to see the analog world, the digital stuff come in.
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I I got to meet all the executives and the people before they kind of cleaned the house and everything. So going up into Death Jam or Shady Records or uh
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all these different labels and being around those people as it was ending as it was ending but I was still I still got to see it, you know. So what do you
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see the future of of this as far as the mass media is concerned because this is this ainโ€™t going nowhere. But this is
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it. What youโ€™re doing is it youโ€™ve got it. Like we walked in and me and Remo were like, โ€œOh, God bless these guys with the real deal.โ€ like because
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thereโ€™s a lot of people doing it and I and I respect people that are but dude thereโ€™s thereโ€™s levels to this of professionalism of preparing the
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questions the cameras the lighting oh yeah yeah you youโ€™re doing a phen this is what it is and and I think um yeah
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like why would I put my effort into building something else for someone again where they could shut it off I donโ€™t I donโ€™t think I could do that
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again ownership is key and and so that I think also the the beauty of what what you have done whether this was
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intentional or not and Iโ€™m Iโ€™m figure it out right now the Peter Parker brand
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is is 100% itโ€™s you so you are the brand so this is one something that specifically in the radio game back then they chew you up and spit you out thatโ€™s
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just what the music business was thatโ€™s what itโ€™s built to do you cannot crush movements and you you you did it on
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multiple occasions is in multiple markets. I feel, and this is real, I feel like people are hip to it now and
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theyโ€™re a little shook because I I donโ€™t do this in a malicious thing at all, but
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like I get, okay, okay, come get this job. If you do it, mediocre, you make a little bit of money and maybe you get
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fired. If you do it really good, theyโ€™re youโ€™re going to make good money and youโ€™re going to stay there, right? So,
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do you Itโ€™s like sports. Like, okay, I got to put the effort in. I I would drive around in the car before I got on
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and do radio breaks all day long running street promo, putting up posters, driving around Hot 977, Bostonโ€™s hottest hip hop and R&B, Mr. Peter Parker,
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hanging out on a Thursday night. Hey, caller, give us a call.
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6519391977. I would just do the brakes over and over and over and over over again. So, the second the mics came on, I was just crushing the brakes. And they
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were like, โ€œThis is your first time on the air?โ€ I said, โ€œIโ€™ve been talking to myself in the car for 6 months. I went to college for this for four years.โ€ You know, like, Iโ€™ve been working at this to
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to to perfect this craft. And we got to a point where I got past just talking on the mic. Now, how do we manipulate this
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tool to be able to really connect with people and how you when you lean this way and you move in and you Dude, it was itโ€™s like magic, man. Right. Yeah. And
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then there is also something itโ€™s a it is a skill set and and and also a talent
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to be able to connect with someone. So I I liken it to to being a chef and the
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only voice that you have as a chef as far as what a dish is is what that dish translates to the the the patron. Yep.
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Itโ€™s the same as being able to have someone listen to you over the airwaves and feel again like like the David like
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the David Banner to feel like they know you. So I remember the first time I met you I felt like I knew you like I I you know I probably did some real you know
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real dumb and random yo yo yo yo and I was very receptive. You was very receptive and so and you donโ€™t remember this but it doesnโ€™t matter. So now Iโ€™m
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going to say you was a complete [ __ ] now. I believe that too cuz I used to be pretty lit too. Nah nah you was mad cool. You was mad cool. Thatโ€™s really
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No, I mean dude I I really um I just dig people and I dig and I dig unique uh experiences with strangers and I donโ€™t
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know this this this whole thing is just exciting and thereโ€™s a thereโ€™s a thing we used to talk about at Go95. Itโ€™s math times magic. Thereโ€™s a
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formula to this how you do things, a structure to this thing. But inside the box that you build of structure, thereโ€™s like a little bit of a feeling inside.
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And thatโ€™s what I was really at towards the latter part of my career really dialing in on is how to really
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uh exchange of energy as much as itโ€™s words. Absolutely. So my my I always tell people that my my goal is, you
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know, as a chef and as a musician is to either recall a past favorable experience or feeling or create a new
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one. And if Iโ€™ve done that, Iโ€™ve done my job. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, people will forget what you said.
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Theyโ€™ll forget what you did, but they will never forget how you made them feel. And I have to work on that in my personal life sometimes cuz Iโ€™m Iโ€™m sharp in my personal life sometimes. And
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I know that itโ€™s not what Iโ€™m saying to them, itโ€™s how Iโ€™m saying it. And um I think itโ€™s maybe just a New Englander in
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me or maybe some of the traumatic experiences Iโ€™ve had over the last 25 30 years and personal stuff that kind of
1:03:34
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sharpen me a little bit. And I that yo I have to work on that because I really I really do want people to have a good experience when they talk to me. Right.
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And and for the most part I believe that you know how they always say that you should meet your your heroes, right?
1:03:48
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Because itโ€™s like the Michael Jordan thing, right? like you knew you knew better because I seen I saw Mike at the Epic Event Center where the Trent Tucker
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tournament. He was there with Pat Euing and Pippen and them and I see Mike and I was like hell no. I said if he says anything sassy to me Iโ€™m throwing all
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the sneakers away and he didnโ€™t care what he bought, you know. Oh good. I but this close. I was like thatโ€™s all I need. But when you get to be like like I
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was in the room with Jay-Z and Beyonce and they were in a VIP section and they left and like walked brush my shoulder.
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Thatโ€™s it. I donโ€™t need much else. Yeah. Yeah. I donโ€™t need much else. No. No.
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Thereโ€™s a rule. Thereโ€™s a thereโ€™s exceptions to the rule. Right. So like you donโ€™t want to meet all your idols.
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Iโ€™ve met a few of them that have been not awesome experiences and Iโ€™m able to separate that. Right. But thereโ€™s people
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like DJ Premiere who is an unbelievably cool guy, a very like a gracious mentor,
1:04:44
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a friend. Heโ€™s like exactly what you would want right Primo to be because Iโ€™m like the the greatest producer of all
1:04:53
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time. The soundtrack to my entire I would say I would say now Dr. Dre is great. Dr. Dr. Dre is amazing. Yeah.
1:05:00
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Some DJ Premiere man. Yeah. This different Pete Rock premiere guys.
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difference is different. Yeah, thatโ€™s thatโ€™s thatโ€™s fire. If you could
1:05:10
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bottle what it it takes to have the longevity
1:05:18
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of a career that spans. You got to have No, but you have to have a level. You have to be operating
1:05:26
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with almost like a level of like spirituality to have a career that lasts
1:05:33
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over 5 to 10 years. You have to believe in yourself and in your mission more than you believe that the sky is
1:05:42
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blue. I I wanted to be on the radio more than I wanted to breathe oxygen. And I would have done anything to make that
1:05:50
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happen. And I knew how to make the basketball team. I knew how to train my body. I knew how to run in the offseason. I knew how to get right. I knew how to fix my jump shot, right? I
1:05:58
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could figure this out, right? And there was a time in my life when I had a little speech impediment. I had my jaw fixed when I was younger. I was, you
1:06:06
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know, maybe confidence wasnโ€™t always where it should have been. I think the biggest difference between me as a kid and me now was just the confidence. You
1:06:13
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know what I mean? I just really feel secure in who I am. Thatโ€™s dope. Yeah.
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But but yeah, no, that thatโ€™s thatโ€™s the honest answer, man. You know what I mean? Itโ€™s like uh you have to really you have to I tell people like you put
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yourself into this. No one dragged you into this thing. Yeah. You didnโ€™t get recruited. No. No. Who you you put yourself into it. If itโ€™s not working
1:06:34
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out, take yourself out. Yeah. If if you donโ€™t want to do it, donโ€™t do it. But but yeah, you have to really believe that that this is for you, right? And and and you hit on the nail on the head.
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That takes an enormous amount of confidence. And Remo will tell you, I talk about the ills of this a lot. Yeah.
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I Iโ€™m aware of the ills of it. Iโ€™m aware of the bad relationships. Iโ€™m aware of the the [ __ ] but I this is my thing,
1:07:02
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right? Oh, and thereโ€™s thereโ€™s no, you know, I was having this conversation with my daughter whoโ€™s talking about, you know, the the new job versus the old
1:07:10
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job. Iโ€™m like, listen, baby, thereโ€™s thereโ€™s thereโ€™s going to be [ __ ] across the street. Itโ€™s going to be Itโ€™ll be new [ __ ] and for the first couple of
1:07:19
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weeks, maybe even a month, itโ€™ll seem like you made the greatest decision ever. Itโ€™s always [ __ ] Thereโ€™s going to be every place has this [ __ ] You do.
1:07:26
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When you get a job, itโ€™s not about how good it is going in. Whatโ€™s it look like on the back end? Absolutely. When we decide not to do this anymore, how is
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that going to go? And nobody wants to have that conversation in the beginning.
1:07:38
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And you have to be solid enough to be like, โ€œLook, one day this is going to end.โ€ Absolutely. Yeah. even if itโ€™s 20 years from now, hopefully in a good way,
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right? But if it should so happen to go left, whenever it did though, whenever it ended for me, I always was like,
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โ€œThank you for the opportunity because it never I never took it lightly.โ€ When I was on DC radio, Cleveland, I not take
1:08:01
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that lightly. I knew what was happening and it was Yeah. It didnโ€™t work. We went this cool. Nice. Thank you very much. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Right.
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And you still have that, you know, you you can never take that. That could never be taken. I wanted to flip the table over. Yeah, of course you my mind
1:08:16
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is like I could really get up underneath this thing and flip that [ __ ] over, dog.
1:08:21
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Itโ€™s itโ€™s the lunch trade thing. We going right back to the kids. Tapped out, bro. And tapped out, man. Itโ€™s New England stuff, man. Different. Thatโ€™s whatโ€™s up, man. Different type of guy
1:08:29
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out there. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And Iโ€™m going let So, I will say, let me I canโ€™t let you leave here before I uh have to
1:08:36
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make a couple of few points. Yeah. The one of them is probably the the worst
1:08:43
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thing I had to endure was my Yankees being up four games and then getting crushed. No, no, this 20 years ago.
1:08:53
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Yeah, I still still 2004. I I can tell you I was in Lifetime Fitness. I was in I was in Oakland and I was watching it and I sort of felt the same way I felt
1:09:02
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about when I saw the first plane hit the south. Iโ€™m like this canโ€™t be real. It cannot be real. Yeah. This is this is obviously fake. After it happened, when
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we won and we beat the Yankees, I remember sitting there in my living room by myself watching the TV. Cannot believe this happened cuz we we were
1:09:17
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like we kind of knew it was going to happen, but when it happened, I was alone when it happened and I was watching the TV and my phone rang and
1:09:25
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the first person to call me and congratulate me when the Red Sox beat the Yankees was Dylon from making the band. Oh, Don. Dialon. Don. Okay, thatโ€™s
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Iโ€™m still friends with Dylon. Shout out to my man Dylan Billy. Youโ€™re done though. He called me up and heโ€™s like, โ€œYo, brethren, Iโ€™m like Dylon like Iโ€™ve
1:09:42
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been doing business with him, but thatโ€™s so like Dylon from making the band was the first one to call me and weโ€™re still friends 20 years later.โ€ Thatโ€™s crazy.
1:09:49
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Thatโ€™s crazy. But the footnote to that is that the the Knicks are up 200. Um, itโ€™s a lot. Thatโ€™s the footnote to that.
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Iโ€™m hurt, man. Iโ€™m hurt, man. Itโ€™s a good thing. Itโ€™s a good thing. All right, before I let you go, man, we got we got to do this lightning round. Itโ€™s been so nice, man. Oh, no. We gonna do this lightning round. All right. So,
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pretty much youโ€™re going to wrap up with some quickfire questions. Um, again, itโ€™s going to be a word or phrase. First
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thing that comes to first thing that comes to your mind. All right. Favorite late night snack. Ooh.
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Uh, like gummies. Like sour gummies of the THC variety. Yeah, probably. Iโ€™m probably Iโ€™m probably so cooked at that
1:10:27
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point that theyโ€™re probably not. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. No, but like but like a like a Sour Patch Kid.
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Oh, something like that. Yeah, that works. That works. Okay. Most underrated hip-hop artist. Oh wow. Most Pharaoh
1:10:38
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March facts. Hey, it could be my goat personally stylistically like the catalog. You can compare other
1:10:45
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cataloges, but stylistically Pharaoh does not get the props he deserves. Yeah, facts. Okay. Dream collaboration.
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I donโ€™t care what youโ€™re doing. Dream collaboration.
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Dream collaboration.
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Uh, I would say probably me on the Boston Celtics. Thatโ€™s a collaboration that I think in in my dream life that
1:11:08
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Iโ€™m Iโ€™m like, you know, like Mike, Iโ€™m like what Chris Herren should have been.
1:11:12
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You know what I mean? Like Chris Heron was supposed to be a goat, bro. He was one of the greatest man. He had some issues personally. Did you see? Okay. So, I read the book Fall River Dreams.
1:11:21
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Yeah. Dude is. And so, I have some connections at Fresno State. So, this this was Oh, heโ€™s a legend. Oh, respect to Chris Herren and what he been through
1:11:28
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and his sobriety and the way he carries himself is is a real amazing awesome thing. Yeah, absolutely. Goto comfort food? Oh, steak and cheese sandwich.
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Like a steak bomb, right? So, like in New England, we used to do them when I was back home. Uh steak and cheese, proolone cheese, peppers, onions, and
1:11:49
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then uh salt and pepper, but then also pepperoni cut up very small kind of sauteed up in the deal. Yeah. Yeah, itโ€™s like a New England steak bomb. All
1:11:56
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right, so we are we talking steak or we talking steakums? No, no, no steak.
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Okay, because the Philly thing I got into a beef with a kid in the comment section about the st sandwiches and I was like, keep all the cheese whiz down
1:12:08
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there. Yeah, the whiz. So, hereโ€™s the thing with the whiz, man. So, like itโ€™s itโ€™s one of those things that if if itโ€™s done correctly and itโ€™s not too much. Yeah, it could be great.
1:12:17
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Right. The the whiz works great. The whiz works. Itโ€™s like itโ€™s like itโ€™s like like kchi. You canโ€™t you canโ€™t eat too much of that [ __ ] and growing up on
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like the that easy cheese like the like kind of that Yeah, I know what it is.
1:12:29
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Yeah, the [ __ ] with the crackers and the red stick. Itโ€™s one of those things. But some proolone a different ball game. I get weโ€™re talking about I but like like
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a like a go. What What kind of steak is it? Are we we talking ribeye? We you know Yeah. Like a nice steak and cheese like you get at a mom and pop. Not not
1:12:45
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like a Dโ€™Angeloโ€™s or like a like a like a chain restaurant like like a like a mom and pop hole in the wall spot. All right. And what what are you having that
1:12:52
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with you? Is it fries? I would say some French fries maybe, but Iโ€™m not a big French fry guy. Just a couple of fries and maybe a Coca-Cola classic or
1:13:00
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potentially some sort of iced tea. Iโ€™m an iced tea connoisseur. I I love iced tea, too. I love iced tea. Yeah, Iโ€™m a for sure icy connoisseur. All right. One
1:13:09
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word to describe your journey.
1:13:15
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Ongoing facts. Ongoing. No, not even close. No, itโ€™s ongoing. This is the I would say this is could be stage three.
1:13:24
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This is like 3.0. Absolutely. And I I think No, I
1:13:30
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know you are more necessary and needed than ever. And the reason is there such
1:13:37
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a there is so much minutia. I needed to hear thatโ€™s out there. Thank you. that
1:13:43
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that the the the authenticity that you bring and just naturally like youโ€™re just youโ€™re just being you, bro. That is more so needed today than ever before.
1:13:53
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This is so nice this podcast. I wish you guys win every award and the man gets paid in the back. Everybody get paid,
1:14:00
1 hour, 14 minutes
man. Get these guys a check, man. N dude, I I love what I do and I was taught from real guys. Yeah. DJ Flex in
1:14:09
1 hour, 14 minutes, 9 seconds
DC. When I got there, took me in his cars, beautiful MercedesBenz, beautiful with the with the like butterscotch
1:14:16
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interior, beautiful white, driving me through the neighborhoods, teaching me about go- go music, teaching me about what DC culture is. This didnโ€™t fall on
1:14:25
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deaf ears, you know what I mean? Like I I I admire the the and being a person that was hidden kind of away from
1:14:32
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culture, I was looking for it, looking for this stuff. So, yeah, dude. I I um Iโ€™m really uh appreciative that Iโ€™ve
1:14:41
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been able to do this for uh this is my 30th summer, DJ. Dope. Thatโ€™s dope.
1:14:46
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Well, do me a favor and tell all of our listeners out there exactly how to support you, where they can find you,
1:14:55
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how to follow you, all the things, what you got coming up. If itโ€™s up to me, and I I and Iโ€™m going to have a say because Iโ€™m Iโ€™m going to be knocking on the
1:15:02
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door. We Thereโ€™s going to be some things happening. No, we got to cook. Oh, yeah.
1:15:05
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We got some got some stuff to do. So, tell the people where all right they can find you. Easy, man. Mr. Peter Parker on
1:15:12
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all social media across the board. No dots or spaces. On Tik Tok, itโ€™s the real Mr. Peter Parker cuz I got on late.
1:15:19
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But, um, I we going to buy that. We going to buy that. Weโ€™ll figure that out. Um, but yeah, no, I do pretty much all my business off Instagram and Facebook and stuff like that right now.
1:15:27
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I do like a bunch of stuff out here in the Twin Cities. I have a ton of ticket giveaways going on with Live Nation on my page right now. U I have events with
1:15:35
1 hour, 15 minutes, 35 seconds
Oasis out here doing like Crave Rooftop and Basement, all these different things. We do 80s Brunch, excuse me, โ€˜8s
1:15:42
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Brunch on um Saturdays and Sundays in Uptown. But if you follow me on Instagram, I will show you exactly what Iโ€™m doing. Follow Mr. Peter Park. Heavy
1:15:52
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hitters, man. We outside, man. Shout out to Remo Williams. Been carrying the phone for me for like a year, shooting all my videos, helping me with everything. I could not do this without
1:16:00
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Remo. Uh I struggled two three years ago. I didnโ€™t know if I was going to retire or not. I felt after 25 30 years
1:16:07
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of this where I was trying to find my space in this. I tried to do some other things for a little bit. I was in this crazy shooting. This bunch of stuff
1:16:14
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happened and I I just needed like a new partner and I needed somebody like a wingman because when youโ€™re a public
1:16:22
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figure on any level and youโ€™re out in public, you canโ€™t watch your own back and things and you donโ€™t know. You donโ€™t know. You could be a target. So, one
1:16:30
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time for my brother Remo Williams. I thank him kindly for his efforts and absolutely heโ€™s been a great partner for the last year filming videos and just putting up with my insanity.
1:16:40
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Itโ€™s always good to have that that one.
1:16:42
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Itโ€™s my brother. Heโ€™s amazing. Moโ€™s the guy. Heโ€™s the man. And and we have a lot more in store, too. Like, you know, I have my marketing company with all these different uh concert events. Weโ€™re doing
1:16:50
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that parties and hopefully I can get back into this space. Oh, no. Oh, no.
1:16:54
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Iโ€™m looking forward to it. Looking forward to it. and and and and back here for sure cuz thereโ€™s some stuff to do.
1:16:59
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Thereโ€™s some stuff to do and we can also we thereโ€™s going to be some text messages about this this I think the Knicks are going to take it and Iโ€™mma
1:17:06
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say it might be maybe five. I told I said, โ€œListen, man. You got 18 of them things, man.
1:17:15
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See, see, now I got Now I got to Now you got 18 of them. Whenever somebody listen, whenever some say I got to now I got to bring out my Yankee card cuz we 27.โ€ No, no, no, no. Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m saying. I know the fighters, my guy.
1:17:28
1 hour, 17 minutes, 28 seconds
2017. My wife, she goes, โ€œAaron, she Aaron George makes me George makes me nervous. He too big.โ€ Aaron George is
1:17:35
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too big. Like I said, I know they put steroids in. Oh, here we go. Here we go.
1:17:40
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Listen, listen. We We love uh in my house, one time I brought home a Yankees hat when I was really young cuz it matched an outfit. And I went into the
1:17:48
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bathroom and I came back around and I was like, โ€œWhereโ€™s my stuff?โ€ And he was like, โ€œOh, that piece of garbage I left out on the porch. I canโ€™t bring that
1:17:56
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back in the house.โ€ And I had to go exchange it the next day. Damn. He wouldnโ€™t let me bring it is real. Itโ€™s fact. I get it. I get it. I I listen. I
1:18:05
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had I had Shout out to my boy Cory. So, I grew up with one of my my really good friends, Corey. He was a dieh hard Celtics fan. Yeah. Like Iโ€™m like, โ€œHow
1:18:13
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the where the [ __ ] did you come from, bro?โ€ Like, how weโ€™re weโ€™re in the Bronx, right? So, how are you a Robert Parish fan? Oh, the bestie. The Chief
1:18:22
1 hour, 18 minutes, 22 seconds
How like Chief and Oh my god, he was like everything about his game was was very square bearish, too, but effective.
1:18:30
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So, he was thatโ€™s why he connected with the guy male and all elbows. Yeah. Oh my god. I mean, I went to D Brownโ€™s basketball camp when I was in high school and I two years in a row with it.
1:18:40
1 hour, 18 minutes, 40 seconds
D Brown, Robert Parish camp I went two years in a row and now me and Dee kind of talk a little bit on social media and Iโ€™m like, man, I love social media. You can be friends with your idols.
1:18:51
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Thatโ€™s Yeah, thatโ€™s me. Yeah. Good. No, but we can wrap this up. Yeah, man. So, so again, follow Mr. Peter Parker on
1:19:00
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social media, IG specifically. Check in on him. This has been the Taste Music
1:19:06
1 hour, 19 minutes, 6 seconds
Hear Food podcast show. I am your guy Ed Porter. Till next time. Peace. Eddie.
1:19:13
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Thank you, man. So kind, man.

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